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help w/ installing tongue n groove pine ceiling over concrete

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Old 03-22-08, 03:56 PM
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help w/ installing tongue n groove pine ceiling over concrete

Can anyone give some advice on installing a tongue and groove ceiling over my outside pool area? I am looking for some advice on how to attach it to a concrete ceiling. I live in florida. Does anyone have any suggestions on what nails to use, what to attach to my ceiling first so it easier to install the pine. Anything will help. Thanks
 
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Old 03-23-08, 05:03 AM
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Welcome to the forums!

You need to install PT strapping to the ceiling and then nail the T&G to the strapping. Tapcons [concrete screws] would be my choice to secure the strapping to the concrete.
 
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Old 03-23-08, 09:49 AM
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pt strapping...do you mean furring strips?
 
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Old 03-23-08, 10:03 AM
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I'm not familiar with that term, either, but yes, I'm pretty sure Mark means furring strips. You'd need to pre-drill the wood and apply adhesive to the backs of the furring strips.
 
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Ya, I've probably lived in these hills too long I said strapping but meant furring strips, they're the same
 
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thanks for the help...any ideas on what nail to use with the nail gun for the pine/
 
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Old 03-23-08, 04:59 PM
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1 3/4" 15 gauge finish nails at an angle down into the edge of the tongue where it crosses the stropping, er, furring strips. Not sure what kind of nail gun you have, so there are options. A framing nailer isn't one of them, nor is a brad nailer.
 
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Old 03-24-08, 05:34 AM
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16 gauge nail gun will also work.
 
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What kind of nails, please

I am about to install a vaulted tongue and groove ceiling in an outside porch in Florida, the ceiling already has 1/2" plywood screwed to the trusses. I am using 8"X1" yellow pine planks.
I need to know which nails to use. I have seen postings talking about the 15 or 16 gauge. However, I'd like to know which kind of gun I should get. Is it, brad or finishing?. I understand the difference is mainly the size of the nail's head. Also being 8" wide by 12 1/2 feet long would it be enough to nail the planks through the tongue only, or do I need to face nail them for added support?. The wood is going to be pre-stained and pre-coated with the clear varnish, so face nailing may turn out to be visible.

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Old 12-19-08, 04:56 AM
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I don't think you can get a brad nail that is over 2" long plus I don't believe they have as much holding power as a 15-16 gauge nail. 15 gauge nailer is angled which can help to get into corners. 16 gauge uses a straight nail. You would want to use a 2.5" nail so you can secure the T&G to the rafters, not just the plywood.
 
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Nails

Thank you for your reply. Could you be specific about the shape of the nail's head I should use? Is it a finishing nail.

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Old 12-20-08, 06:22 AM
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Basically all the finish nail gun nails are the same - they barely have a head. 18 gauge is a pin nail and IMO isn't big enough for the job. That leaves 15 and 16 gauge. 16 gauge comes in a straight clip, 15 gauge is angled. If you nail by hand, then you would use a finish nail. Gun nails aren't the same as the nails you use with a hammer. A finish nail gun won't shoot framing nails, a framing nail gun won't shoot finish nails.
2" = 6 penny
2.5"=8penny

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Thank you very much, I understand clearly what I need now. I already started staining the wood. Will post pictures when finished.

Mario
 
 

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