INSTALLING TONGUE and GROOVE
#1
05-27-11, 05:35 PM
INSTALLING TONGUE and GROOVE
I'm Renovating my 1600 sf home.
My ceilings are 4" reinforced concrete.
I want to install 3/4" thick tongue and groove plank on the ceiling throughout the house.
The furring strips will be 3/4" thick.
I have a Porter Cable DA250C for a finish nailer and 4000 1-1/2" galvanized nails to take care of the plank to the strips.
Considering the size and scope of the job, What would you recommend I use to secure the furring strips to the concrete.
Any recommendation as to what type and length of nail to use and what matching brand/type pneumatic nailer to purchase would be great.
I'm considering purchasing a 13 gauge T nailer and 1-1/2" concrete T nails.
Suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks, Lonnie
My ceilings are 4" reinforced concrete.
I want to install 3/4" thick tongue and groove plank on the ceiling throughout the house.
The furring strips will be 3/4" thick.
I have a Porter Cable DA250C for a finish nailer and 4000 1-1/2" galvanized nails to take care of the plank to the strips.
Considering the size and scope of the job, What would you recommend I use to secure the furring strips to the concrete.
Any recommendation as to what type and length of nail to use and what matching brand/type pneumatic nailer to purchase would be great.
I'm considering purchasing a 13 gauge T nailer and 1-1/2" concrete T nails.
Suggestions would be helpful.
Thanks, Lonnie
#2
05-27-11, 06:16 PM
A T nailer would be the fastest method of installing the furring strips. They still haven't convinced me of the reliability on a horizontal surface, yet. I'm just too old school, I guess.
Looks like you have it pretty well lined up. Let us know how it goes with the installation.
Tip: keep a good measurement as you go so you can tweak things as you move along. You don't want to have a piece at the end to cut at an angle....ugly.
Looks like you have it pretty well lined up. Let us know how it goes with the installation.
Tip: keep a good measurement as you go so you can tweak things as you move along. You don't want to have a piece at the end to cut at an angle....ugly.
#3
05-27-11, 07:00 PM
Nailer
Thanks Chandler for your fast response.
This will be my first ceiling renovation
This is why I came this forum, details I would not have thought of that can cost me and the job quality.
I'm glad you mentioned measurement, I did not think of the end.
I'm planning on 12" plank so I guess I can snap a line every two feet or so to keep it on the straight and level.
Will 1 1/2" T nails be sufficient? I just guessed by doubling my strip thickness.
Is a 13 gauge T nailer correct?
If so, Is there a particular pneumatic T nailer you recommend or that I should avoid?
I'm asking a lot, I can be anal retentive at times.
Piss poor planning makes a piss poor product.
Thanks for your input.
Lonnie
This will be my first ceiling renovation
This is why I came this forum, details I would not have thought of that can cost me and the job quality.
I'm glad you mentioned measurement, I did not think of the end.
I'm planning on 12" plank so I guess I can snap a line every two feet or so to keep it on the straight and level.
Will 1 1/2" T nails be sufficient? I just guessed by doubling my strip thickness.
Is a 13 gauge T nailer correct?
If so, Is there a particular pneumatic T nailer you recommend or that I should avoid?
I'm asking a lot, I can be anal retentive at times.
Piss poor planning makes a piss poor product.
Thanks for your input.
Lonnie
#4
05-28-11, 03:51 AM
From experience, unless you plan on mid-span fastening, a 12" plank may tend to warp in a ceiling situation. Max I usually go is 8", and nail through the tongue only into the furring.
I believe 1 1/2" t nail will be the max the nailer will drive. Any more and you'll have boogers sticking down and will have to bend them over. Along with the nails, I would consider using PL Advanced adhesive on the furring strips. That is a double insurance for you.
You can spend a great deal of money on a name brand nailer, may can recover some of it if you sell it afterwards, and it will do the job. Likewise you can find a "not so much known" brand, for a lot less money, that will do the job, and if you sell it afterwards, so be it. If you don't, not much lost, and you have a nailer you can use later with your investment already amortized out.
Background. I am a professional nail driver. I have nailers running out my ears for every job imaginable. I carry a hammer to correct wood positioning
before I nail it home with a nail gun. I own everything from Porter Cable, Bostitch, Senco and others. I needed a flooring nailer to install about 300 sf of bamboo in my rental cabin. Rental was like $75 a day. I found an off brand on line for $120, thinking it would last through the job. It has flawlessly installed multiple thousands of sf of hardwood without a whimper, so it was a good investment.
I believe 1 1/2" t nail will be the max the nailer will drive. Any more and you'll have boogers sticking down and will have to bend them over. Along with the nails, I would consider using PL Advanced adhesive on the furring strips. That is a double insurance for you.
You can spend a great deal of money on a name brand nailer, may can recover some of it if you sell it afterwards, and it will do the job. Likewise you can find a "not so much known" brand, for a lot less money, that will do the job, and if you sell it afterwards, so be it. If you don't, not much lost, and you have a nailer you can use later with your investment already amortized out.
Background. I am a professional nail driver. I have nailers running out my ears for every job imaginable. I carry a hammer to correct wood positioning
before I nail it home with a nail gun. I own everything from Porter Cable, Bostitch, Senco and others. I needed a flooring nailer to install about 300 sf of bamboo in my rental cabin. Rental was like $75 a day. I found an off brand on line for $120, thinking it would last through the job. It has flawlessly installed multiple thousands of sf of hardwood without a whimper, so it was a good investment.
