Questions about walls
#1
01-19-12, 09:10 AM
Questions about walls
I am rehabbing a condo and need some advice about finishing some walls I have partially taken down. I have attached a photo of the area I have removed the walls from.[IMG]
[/IMG] On the right side (part of the wall removed from floor to ceiling), I planned on attaching a 2x4 to the exposed masonry (all walls are masonry with cement over then a skin coat of plaster to finish) and capping the wall with drywall. On the left side, the plan is to attach a 2x4 to the top to make a finished platform to attach a bar height counter to (offset for seating at the counter). Here are my questions:
1. Does this sound like the right way to go?
2. If not, what would you suggest to "finish the end and top of the walls?
3. would it be better to take out what I have left and frame in the areas with 2x4 and drywall?
Thanks in advance for your input
[/IMG] On the right side (part of the wall removed from floor to ceiling), I planned on attaching a 2x4 to the exposed masonry (all walls are masonry with cement over then a skin coat of plaster to finish) and capping the wall with drywall. On the left side, the plan is to attach a 2x4 to the top to make a finished platform to attach a bar height counter to (offset for seating at the counter). Here are my questions:1. Does this sound like the right way to go?
2. If not, what would you suggest to "finish the end and top of the walls?
3. would it be better to take out what I have left and frame in the areas with 2x4 and drywall?
Thanks in advance for your input
#2
01-19-12, 09:43 AM
Your picture looks like your masonry is PyroBar, a gypsum block that was laid with gypsum plaster as mortar and plastered with gypsum plaster. Is it quite soft and light in weight with wood fibers in it?
If so it does not hold screws or nails very well.
Your idea is fine but you will need to put something to anchor your lumber to. Fill several of the cores in your blocks with plaster. If possible get real plaster you mix with sand not StructoLite or Gypsolite. Even molding plaster will work but you have to be fast. Fill the cores back several inches and mark where you filled them. Use expansion anchors to anchor the lumber at those places. You can cut this material nice and straight in order to have a nice straight surface to attach your lumber. Use some Liquid nails as well--can't hurt.
But another way is simply to plaster those ends. You probably noticed that it is pretty hard to separate the plaster from the block. If you could separate it you could take it off and install expanded metal cornerbeads and plaster the noses and the return. If this were mine that is what I would do but then I think like a plasterer.
If so it does not hold screws or nails very well.
Your idea is fine but you will need to put something to anchor your lumber to. Fill several of the cores in your blocks with plaster. If possible get real plaster you mix with sand not StructoLite or Gypsolite. Even molding plaster will work but you have to be fast. Fill the cores back several inches and mark where you filled them. Use expansion anchors to anchor the lumber at those places. You can cut this material nice and straight in order to have a nice straight surface to attach your lumber. Use some Liquid nails as well--can't hurt.
But another way is simply to plaster those ends. You probably noticed that it is pretty hard to separate the plaster from the block. If you could separate it you could take it off and install expanded metal cornerbeads and plaster the noses and the return. If this were mine that is what I would do but then I think like a plasterer.
#3
01-19-12, 10:08 AM
My other thought is to take down the pieces i have left up and just frame in the half wall for the bartop (with a 36" height, 28" deep short wall perpendicular to the bar top) and the closing wall on the opposite side with regular 2x4 framing and drywall.
Which do you think is the better solution?
Which do you think is the better solution?
#4
01-19-12, 07:16 PM
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I had a very similar situation in a major kitchen remodel a few years ago (although mine was conventional 2 x 4 construction). I made the bar top wide enough to be used with bar stools on both sides, and cantilevered it out into the room with 45-degree beveled corners, such that a third stool could be used on the end when desired. Whatever you do, make sure to stiffen the bar top adequately, or the overhangs will (annoyingly) deflect when people lean their elbows on them. Job turned out great.
