Load bearing wall removal


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Old 09-13-12, 03:18 PM
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Question Load bearing wall removal

As part of a pending kitchen remodel, I want to remove a 7' section of wall, that is load bearing. The 2x6 ceiling joists run perpendicular to the wall, and splice directly over the wall. The problem that I've got is that I can't easily support the posts for the beam to replace the wall at that spot (meaning support them all the way to the basement foundation). I can properly support a 10' beam about 2 1/2' over from this existing wall location, but then the beam wouldn't run directly under the joist splices.
This is a 1950's style ranch house, so there's nothing above the ceiling joists, except a stick frame roof. Nothing is stored above this area in the attic.

So, my question is, are there ways of strengthening the splice joints so that a beam wouldn't have to be placed directly under them, or is this just wishful thinking?
 
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Old 09-14-12, 09:21 AM
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Just a quick update. Below is a link to a photobucket album. There are eight (8) pictures of the layout with various notes. I can't figure out how to reorder them, so looking at them in sequence by number (layout1, layout2, etc...) will probably make the most sense. There's a pic showing the rought layout of the walls as they exist, and one with the ceiling joists overlayed, and then various others showing what I want to do.
I'm not asking for recommendations, because I know for liability reasons that won't happen. Mainly, I'm just looking for anyone who's ever seen it done, or done it themselves, where the splices have been strengthened somehow to allow an offset support. I'm going to have find an engineer to look at it, but thought maybe I could get some knowledge/thoughts from the experienced people on this forum, first.
Thanks!

Kitchen pictures by claassen5 - Photobucket
 
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Old 09-14-12, 01:49 PM
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With your disclaimer in place......I would run the LVL along the orignal load bearing position over the wall to the right and left, above the ceiling line. The ceiling joists would need support on both sides during this operation, but reattach the joist tails to the LVL using joist hangers. That way the load will be borne by the LVL, completely above your ceiling line and the joists will be supported via hangers to the side of the LVL. Make sense???
 
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Old 09-14-12, 01:58 PM
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You can tuck all or most of the LVL in the joist space if you cut the joists, add the LVL and reattach the joists to the LVL with joist hangers.
 
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Old 09-14-12, 02:44 PM
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If I understand right, you're both talking about cutting the LVL beam into the joists, rather than placing above, or below, right?
I had actually thought of this, but wasn't sure that was a DIY job I was willing to tackle!

Thanks for the replies.
 
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Old 09-14-12, 04:11 PM
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It would a little more work then just putting the beam below the joists. Either way you will need to build two temporary support walls. Just depends how good you are with a reciprocating saw.
 
 

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