Stained ceiling,primed,kilzed,painted twice
#1
01-12-14, 09:14 AM
Stained ceiling,primed,kilzed,painted twice
We have had our textured ceiling that had a 5 foot by 6 inch water stain primed kilzed and painted twice by a professional painter. We can still see the shadow of the stain and he says there is nothing more he can do. We paid quite a bit to HSBC this done. He has agreed to come by to look at if so I'm hoping, even though I am not a painter, to have a suggestion for him. Please help
#2
01-12-14, 11:23 AM
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He should have used oil or shellac based primmer.
Kilz to me is like painting with milk.
A primer like Zinsser cover stain would have sealed it in one coat.
Kilz to me is like painting with milk.
A primer like Zinsser cover stain would have sealed it in one coat.
#3
01-12-14, 11:51 AM
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I agree. Hard to block stains can always be covered with Zinnser BIN pigmented shellac primer.
#4
01-12-14, 12:23 PM
Oil base Kilz will generally seal most stains but whenever there is any doubt a pigmented shellac like Zinnser's BIN should be used. I've never had any stain bleed thru when well coated with BIN.
There is a possibility that the water damaged the drywall slightly and what you see is a shadow and not the stain.
There is a possibility that the water damaged the drywall slightly and what you see is a shadow and not the stain.
#5
01-12-14, 01:36 PM
ceiling stain
When you say what I might be seeing is just a shadow and not the stain, what does that mean and what can be done If there is damage to the drywall and we are seeing a shadow then at this point what can be done? Thanks. I am going to recommend that maybe he should have used Bin like is recommended.
#6
01-12-14, 02:35 PM
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In a pinch, I have used quick dry polyurethane to cover. Similar to BIN shellac without having to buy a whole quart for a small stain. I always seem to have poly around. I think the cans multiply when I'm not looking.
#7
01-13-14, 02:31 AM
If the water caused the drywall to sag/warp any - paint won't totally fix it If you shine a bright light on the repair and can no longer see the stain, it's a shadow. A straight edge would also let you know if the drywall isn't as flat as it should be. I'm not saying it is a shadow only pointing out that it is a possibility. I normally use an oil base primer on water stains but if I have any doubts that oil primer won't seal the stain, I use BIN.
Like Z, I have used most any oil base coating on mild stains when I didn't have primer available but a solvent based primer is preferable.
If you shine a bright light on the repair and can no longer see the stain, it's a shadow. A straight edge would also let you know if the drywall isn't as flat as it should be. I'm not saying it is a shadow only pointing out that it is a possibility. I normally use an oil base primer on water stains but if I have any doubts that oil primer won't seal the stain, I use BIN.Like Z, I have used most any oil base coating on mild stains when I didn't have primer available but a solvent based primer is preferable.
