Re texture
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07-29-14, 05:06 PM
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Re texture
I have ceilings with drywall then hardened plaster over it with a popcorn texture. Water will only take part of the popcorn texture off. It will not take off the plaster off to the drywall. I want to retexture the ceiling but I do not want to re hang all drywall because of expense.
My question is can I scrape part of the popcorn off and sand the paint off smooth to the plaster and re texture a skim coat orange peel style to match my walls? Or can I just retexture right over the popcorn style. Its not thick popcorn style texture. If I retexture a skim coat can it be joint compound? Will it adhere?
What is my best approach to re texture?
My question is can I scrape part of the popcorn off and sand the paint off smooth to the plaster and re texture a skim coat orange peel style to match my walls? Or can I just retexture right over the popcorn style. Its not thick popcorn style texture. If I retexture a skim coat can it be joint compound? Will it adhere?
What is my best approach to re texture?
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07-30-14, 03:39 AM
Orange peel doesn't hide much so you need to either scrape off all the popcorn or remove what you can and then either sand or skim coat until you have a suitable surface for your new texture.
Water is usually fairly effective at removing popcorn texture. Has it been painted? How are you trying to remove it? Usually between getting the popcorn wet and scraping will remove most/all of it.
Water is usually fairly effective at removing popcorn texture. Has it been painted? How are you trying to remove it? Usually between getting the popcorn wet and scraping will remove most/all of it.
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07-30-14, 04:58 AM
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Im using a garden water sprayer. Im able to scrape the bumps off, but there is still a uneven layer with some paint left behind. It has been painted. I think this plaster is some sort of hardened vermiculite? Or maybe they mixed paint with some plaster which makes it hardened. worst popcorn ceiling ever.
#4
07-30-14, 05:06 AM
Joint compound and most textures are water soluble but paint is not. Sometimes you can only remove some of the texture and must skim coat over the rest to give you a nice level ceiling.
How old is your house? could you have plaster walls or a plaster veneer? The only drywall products that aren't water soluble are setting compounds and while the ceiling could have been covered with a setting compound - it's not likely. Plaster products are not water soluble.
How old is your house? could you have plaster walls or a plaster veneer? The only drywall products that aren't water soluble are setting compounds and while the ceiling could have been covered with a setting compound - it's not likely. Plaster products are not water soluble.
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07-30-14, 07:19 AM
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My house was built 1975. I took down some walls to open space up and it was drywall with about 1/8-3/16 plaster on it I believe. Im not sure of the difference of plaster veneer. However the ceiling I can see the drywall with the same thickness white plaster. It would make sense to be plaster because water is not scraping it off
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07-30-14, 12:49 PM
That sounds like a plaster veneer over drywall .... one of the better built houses 
Not sure why anyone would shoot texture over plaster, but sometimes folks do things that defy understanding
Not sure why anyone would shoot texture over plaster, but sometimes folks do things that defy understanding
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thanks, its pretty hard n strong.
I have scraped all the beads off and I am going to sand tommorow.
How do I skim coat joint compound with texture? Do I add some type of sand texture to the mix? I want it to look a lil grainy to try and match my walls. Also how would I do the corners? I am new to this.
Ive read that people have painted with a texture paint instead?
I have scraped all the beads off and I am going to sand tommorow.
How do I skim coat joint compound with texture? Do I add some type of sand texture to the mix? I want it to look a lil grainy to try and match my walls. Also how would I do the corners? I am new to this.
Ive read that people have painted with a texture paint instead?
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07-30-14, 05:45 PM
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actually if I want a texture I cant use compound right? So if I want texture I need to use plaster...can I plaster over paint? What type of plaster would I use veneer?
#9
07-31-14, 03:47 AM
While joint compound can be used for texture, you don't skim coat and texture simultaneously. Skim coating is basically taking joint compound [thinned slightly] and spreading it evenly across the ceiling/wall. You then sand when dry, remove the sanding dust, prime and paint. You would texture after sanding, prior to priming if so desired.
I don't know much about actual plaster but I've repaired plaster on numerous occasions using drywall products. Setting compounds like Durabond dry hard like plaster does [also hard to sand] Joint compound is easier to work with and sands easy - just doesn't dry as hard/tough as plaster.
Texture paints pretty much go on like any other paint but you must pay attention and make sure you apply it evenly. While texture will hide minor imperfections in the finish - it isn't a cure all!! Bad spots in the wall/ceiling may still show and will be harder to eliminate after the texture paint has been applied.
I don't know much about actual plaster but I've repaired plaster on numerous occasions using drywall products. Setting compounds like Durabond dry hard like plaster does [also hard to sand] Joint compound is easier to work with and sands easy - just doesn't dry as hard/tough as plaster.
Texture paints pretty much go on like any other paint but you must pay attention and make sure you apply it evenly. While texture will hide minor imperfections in the finish - it isn't a cure all!! Bad spots in the wall/ceiling may still show and will be harder to eliminate after the texture paint has been applied.
