Go Back  DoItYourself.com Community Forums > Interior Improvement Center > Walls and Ceilings
Reload this Page >

When putting up drywall, how do you make the edges of sheets stay smooth?

When putting up drywall, how do you make the edges of sheets stay smooth?


  #1  
Old 10-10-14, 04:25 PM
F
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 112
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
When putting up drywall, how do you make the edges of sheets stay smooth?

I've seen videos adding support where seems are and some that don't.
When I put up my sheets I put wood behind the seams so that I can screw them in.
I use tape and sand down.
Everything looks great before I paint, but once the paint goes on, it turns to crap.
Looks aweful, so many spots that aren't smooth.

What's the trick to smooth drywall?

Thanks for any tips.
 
  #2  
Old 10-10-14, 04:41 PM
czizzi's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 6,541
Received 15 Upvotes on 13 Posts
Thin layers that go out progressively farther. Finish with a 12" knife and bend the knife as you drag the mud so that it is thin as a hair at the edge and slightly thicker in the middle. Drag like this on one side, flex the knife the other way on the other side and then gently pull the knife across the center without flex or bend in either direction. Another key is that the knife is cleaned after each pull. Unless you are loading mud on the wall, your knife always pulls from a clean state.
 
  #3  
Old 10-10-14, 04:58 PM
B
Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: New England
Posts: 9,460
Received 47 Upvotes on 43 Posts
In my experience a good drywaller can finish in 3 coats, I'm not there yet and probably never will be. But I'm learning. One key is to NOT apply too much mud at any one time. I have passed the point of sanding, except for a light pass after the final coat. But when I hear sanding to make things smooth I know too much mud is being applied.

Backing up the seams isn't bad, but its purpose is to prevent someone from pushing hard and breaking that seam, not to make it smooth. 1/2" drywall at 16" on center will line up nicely.

Bud
 
  #4  
Old 10-11-14, 04:47 AM
M
Forum Topic Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA - N.E.Tn
Posts: 45,221
Received 753 Upvotes on 658 Posts
As mentioned finishing drywall normally takes 3 coats with each coat being wider than the previous. You can use a straightedge or a bright light to help you determine if the drywall is ready for primer. A close inspection of the drywall while the primer is wet will also help you spot defects - remember where they are, address those areas after the primer dries and recoat those repairs with primer before progressing to the finish paint. Flat paints are more forgiving than enamels. The shinier the paint, the more light will reflect highlighting any defects in the wall.
 
  #5  
Old 10-15-14, 04:39 PM
F
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 112
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
Those are some awesome tips. I will write those down and try to apply them to a small project.
One more question about placement of the drywall.
Do you need to place some wood behind them at each seam?
I've seen two sheets butted up against each other on one stud but when I try that approach, the screws have to be placed so close to that edge of the drywall that the edge of the drywall usually breaks off when the drywall screw gets flush.
If that's the best way to place them, how do you not break your drywall?

Thanks again!
 
  #6  
Old 10-15-14, 04:50 PM
czizzi's Avatar
Member
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: USA
Posts: 6,541
Received 15 Upvotes on 13 Posts
You need to be careful driving screws on a shared stud butt or tapered joint. Drywall screw guns have a guard built into the screw bit that prevents you from over driving the screws. You can buy a drywall bit for your drill that sets the screws to the correct depth without overdriving and blowing out the edge of the material.
 
  #7  
Old 10-16-14, 03:15 AM
M
Forum Topic Moderator
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: USA - N.E.Tn
Posts: 45,221
Received 753 Upvotes on 658 Posts
One more question about placement of the drywall.
Do you need to place some wood behind them at each seam?
Not always but sometimes it's beneficial. We often install patch pieces when there isn't a stud in the right place and will screw a piece of wood to the backside of the existing drywall with some of the wood exposed so we can screw the patch to it. On smaller holes will take a 1x a few inches longer than the hole and screw it to both ends and then secure the patch to it.
 
  #8  
Old 10-17-14, 03:08 PM
F
Member
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: USA
Posts: 112
Upvotes: 0
Received 0 Upvotes on 0 Posts
I'm confident my next wall project will turn out much better.
What's even better is that I will actually consider trying again whereas before your help I most likely wouldn't have.

Thanks all.
 
  #9  
Old 10-17-14, 03:25 PM
B
Member
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: New England
Posts: 9,460
Received 47 Upvotes on 43 Posts
I'm now renovating some rooms I drywalled 35 years ago and honestly, I wouldn't want anyone to see them and know it was me. Really bad, but I had no expert help as I had always hired a pro to do that work. Then a few years ago I took on a major building and hung and taped 75% of it by myself. 16 ft ceiling with 12' 5/8" rock and I got them up there and taped and painted. The first 25% I had the help of a very helpful pro and wow did I learn a lot. I'm far from the level of a real pro, but I almost enjoy hanging and taping.

The only drawback to getting good a hanging sheetrock is your friends will remember that.

Bud
 
 

Thread Tools
Search this Thread
 
Ask a Question
Question Title:
Description:
Your question will be posted in: