Reinforcing the ceiling


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Old 09-26-15, 05:47 AM
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Reinforcing the ceiling

I have some very heavy furniture on the second floor and need to reinforce the ceiling on the ground floor.

Does someone knows how they call this element:

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Some people would call it a brace, angled brace, angled support...
 
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Old 09-28-15, 05:06 PM
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I found it as "pergola bracket".

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To me, a bracket is usually metal but good enough.
Is Italian your main language? braccio, sostegno...
In Spanish, braguero, apoyo...
 
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I have some very heavy furniture on the second floor and need to reinforce the ceiling on the ground floor.
No, you need to reinforce the floor from below. The ceiling is just something that hangs on the bottom of the floor to hide it. To brace the floor you need to open the ceiling and run your brace to the floor joists directly.

Why do you think the floor won't support the furniture? A correctly built floor will support even a water bed.
 
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In engineering construction it is called a Haunch.
If there are solid timbers on ground floor walls, then these could be fitted on either side. However I would advise you to put an RSJ (rolled steel joist) beam across the existing timber joists and set into the wall on either side. Shim any gaps under the joist with old slate, then cement the joist in place. The beam can be boxed in to cover the steel joist and painted.
Hope that helps and makes sense.
 
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Old 09-30-15, 12:20 PM
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I my case the ceiling is gyprock screwed directly to the beams, so, if the horizontal plate of the bracket is big enough I might skip even the cutting. If not, it's not going to be the first time I'm opening this ceiling.
 
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You still haven't told us why you are doing it. Furniture is not that heavy assuming the floor was properly constructed. Just having trouble believing there is a problem because of furniture. If the floor is sagging I doubt the furniture is the problem.

Adding a beam perpendicular to the joists or sistering the joists if they are undersized would be a better solution.
 
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I didn't say "heavy furniture".
I said "VERY heavy furniture".
 
 

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