Fixing Popped Ceiling Nails/Screws Gone Wrong
#1
10-12-20, 09:59 AM
Fixing Popped Ceiling Nails/Screws Gone Wrong
Hi all,
I thought I just had popped nails in my bathroom ceiling, but after fixing some, I found these that were "repaired" by probably a handyman prior to buying this house. Looks like they didn't repair correctly.
The 1st photo is one side of the wall, the 2nd two photos are another side of the same wall, but the same spot. Looks like they put so many screws in they crumbled the drywall.
How do I go about fixing this without taking the molding down? These spots would be up against the ceiling joists.
My thoughts would be any of the following:
I thought I just had popped nails in my bathroom ceiling, but after fixing some, I found these that were "repaired" by probably a handyman prior to buying this house. Looks like they didn't repair correctly.
The 1st photo is one side of the wall, the 2nd two photos are another side of the same wall, but the same spot. Looks like they put so many screws in they crumbled the drywall.
How do I go about fixing this without taking the molding down? These spots would be up against the ceiling joists.
My thoughts would be any of the following:
- Fill with mud (possibly mixed with glue, and if so, what kind of glue and what ratio?).
- Cut out a portion of the drywall where the screws are and maybe 2-3 inches to each side... I'm not sure where piece ends, or if I dare score it along the molding. If it ends at the corner of the wall, then I'm guessing there's an inside tape joint and I'll have a hell of a time trying to get a new piece up against that.
- If I cut out drywall, can I repair with a blind patch flush with the molding?
- As far as any mud to be used.. while I could mix some hot mud... I have half of a bucket of all purpose I'm trying to use because I likely won't finish the bucket before the project is done.
#2
10-12-20, 11:22 AM
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I don't know why so many screws in a tight area unless they were searching for the joist.
Just find the joist and install new screws 3-4 " away from that spot, dig out the broken drywall, trim any loose or torn paper and patch, prime and paint.
You dont mix glue with drywall compound.
Use what ever you have some is easier than others but use it up!
Just find the joist and install new screws 3-4 " away from that spot, dig out the broken drywall, trim any loose or torn paper and patch, prime and paint.
You dont mix glue with drywall compound.
Use what ever you have some is easier than others but use it up!
#3
10-12-20, 11:46 AM
I can't tell how the ceiling drywall is laid out but everywhere there were nail pops, there were two nails about 2 inches apart. Normally I would think each nail is in a different piece of drywall but that would also mean they used a bunch of 2ft pieces (scraps?) instead of a single 6-8ft sheet. Whoever did the repair just matched screw for nail, and then some extras. In a few cases, they didn't even remove the old nail, they just knocked them in a little so they popped again.
Hardly seems like I should need screws at all right at the edge of the room.. these screws/nails weren't doing anything. This photo shows some of the other spots were I repaired... just haven't tackled these edge ones yet.
I mentioned glue in the mud because I've heard good things about the technique for everything from filling holes to taping. See here and here.
Hardly seems like I should need screws at all right at the edge of the room.. these screws/nails weren't doing anything. This photo shows some of the other spots were I repaired... just haven't tackled these edge ones yet.
I mentioned glue in the mud because I've heard good things about the technique for everything from filling holes to taping. See here and here.
#4
10-12-20, 12:15 PM
Drywall screws/nails are often installed in pairs, although the screws in the pics aren't drywall screws [maybe deck screws] For a screw to hold it has to go thru solid drywall. Wherever the drywall is damaged a screw placed thru the damage won't hold. I'd put a screw on each side of the damage and then fill in the damaged portion along with covering the screw heads with mud.
I've never heard of anyone mixing glue in j/c .... other than it being mentioned on the internet. I've never done so or ever heard of any finishers doing so.
I've never heard of anyone mixing glue in j/c .... other than it being mentioned on the internet. I've never done so or ever heard of any finishers doing so.
