load bearing wall


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Old 12-16-20, 10:25 AM
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load bearing wall

trying to ascertain if this wall is load bearing.
florida block home, built 1995
wall originally had upper.lower cabinets/stove and stove vent
single plate at the top

i have never seen trusses like these, hence the inquiry.

picture 4 is mislabeled, just showing the downward wood spanning the home.

picture 4, where is states wall to be removed is exactly in the middle of the wall ins question.





 
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Normally when trusses span the width of the home none of the walls below are load bearing, just the walls at each end of the truss. What makes you think the interior wall in question is load bearing?
 
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None of the photos give a very clear picture of the entire shape of the complete truss, and they don't clearly show if all the trusses are exactly the same or if there are different types.

The left side of the truss in photos 1 and 2 do not appear to be a mirror image of the right side. That makes me concerned that the wall in the center IS load bearing.

Photo 3 also seems to show a different style of truss not seen in any other photos.
 
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my apologies for the picture quality and details.

my concern is all the smaller pieces which seem to touch the drywall.

the large truss in the center of the home, seems to come down and spider off into the others in the pictures.

photo 3 is showing the back of the truss system heading to the exterior wall.

i should note, the dining room is next to the kitchen with all the same style wood in the attic with no wall except the exteror.
 
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Old 12-16-20, 11:18 AM
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Was able to get some additional photos


Middle of house. These should be in order from middle to exterior wall




these should be in order from middle of home to the exterior wall.


the wood pieces coming down from the actual truss are they for drywall only or do they carry a load?



 
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the wood pieces coming down from the actual truss are they for drywall only or do they carry a load?
The entire thing is the "actual truss". They work as a unit, parts under tension parts under compression.

Like I said, without being there and seeing a complete diagram of the truss framing layout, it is pretty hard to say. There are lots of truss shapes, and all we can see in your photos are incomplete pictures of what a few of the trusses look like. No drawings of a complete truss. No blueprint of how they are laid out or where girders are. They work as a system, there are sometimes load bearing walls, sometimes not.

What Marksr says is correct, that typically only the exterior walls are load bearing. But without being there, its pretty hard to say with 100% certainty.
 
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thank you.

perhaps this wood coming down from the truss itself would be for the vaulted ceiling in living room and then flattens out for the rest of house
 
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called the county building dept and they said this roof is a gable/hip?

 
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Gable or hip is the style of the roof, yours appears to be a gable. The truss is separate from any walls. If there is a load bearing wall it would span under multiple trusses. I used to paint a lot of new construction block homes in fla [70s & 80s] I don't recall any of them having a load bearing wall, the trusses were supported by the block wall on each side. Is this house in a subdivision built by the same builder? If so, the neighboring houses would likely be constructed the same way and a neighbor might be able to help you.
 
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No subdivision.

i can clearly see the long main truss extends to the outside wall.

just concerned with all the odd triangle looking things up there.
 
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The different angles of 2xs in the truss are engineered so they will carry the load. Most trusses have angled 2x4s as part of the truss.
 
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this is the inside of the wall in question.

single plate, 3 studs on either side, i can assume these are for the cabinets/drop ceiling/stove etc.

where the truss comes down and goes straight (white paint) , it hits a load bearing beam that spans the outside wall.

looking thru th picture with the 3 studs, the other wall looks the same to me?






 
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There are many kinds of trusses. See link. While most bear at 2 points (usually the exterior walls), some bear at 3 points. We cannot tell everything from just photos, from 1000 miles away.

That being said, load bearing walls typically have a double top plate. So what i see in your last 2 photos is probably not load bearing. You would not have a load bearing wall with a single top plate and studs that are not directly below the trusses.

That being said, you almost always want to have a structural engineer or someone qualified, look at any structural changes in person.

where the truss comes down and goes straight (white paint) , it hits a load bearing beam that spans the outside wall.
This is not clear at all. There is a ton of white paint in the photos. The "truss" is all the framing that is connected with metal plates. And i see no "beam" in your photos.
 
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thank you for that link (looks super informative) and all the help today
 
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sorry photo one on the recently uploaded images.

there are 4 with the metal attacher piece that go from that point to the bearing beam approx 12 feet then the outside wall.
 
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forgot to add, the 2 doorways only has a 2x4 on top and on the bottom with the sheetrock
 
 

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