I live in a two story A-frame cabin. It’s well built and more like an actual house. However, there are still improvements that need to be made to make it more house-like. The entire house inside is finished with pine tongue-and-groove board right on the studs. There is insulation in all the vertical studded walls.
Given it’s an A-Frame, the second story is mostly sloped walls. Those however, are NOT insulated. I gets really cold in the winter up there, and really hot in the summer. You put your hand to the wall and totally feel the outside.
I want to start insulating upstairs over in the master bedroom. The roof/ceiling paneling is supported with 4x6 beams at meet at the very top. Here’s what I’m trying to decide:
1. I don’t need to see the beams necessarily. I’m considering adding a bit of 2x6 framing in between the beams. Then running some Romex for recessed lighting, filling the entire cavity with 6 inch insulation and then putting tongue and groove pine board horizontally over it all.
2. Alternatively, I could do the same, but put sheetrock over the framing and beams, THEN after the sheetrock is up, install the tongue-and-groove paneling over it all for the wood finish. This method would be more work but would also be more robust. This is the method I would use downstairs as it’s fire-hardened. I’m not too concerned upstairs because in case of having to escape a fire, you want the bottom floor, and bottom floor ceiling to as fire resistant as possible. This upstairs section, if it were to catch fire, we’d already be out.
3. The last option would be to not use full 6 inch insulation and rather frame with 2x3’s. Then use either method above, but in between each beam, rather than over it all. This one might look the best since it still shows the beams.
I would love some feedback on the above so I can start drawing it out and planning for materials. Thank you.
A frames are a nightmare to try and insulate!
The right way, but it's to late now is to have built it with sip roofing panels for the sheathing on the roof.
Second way, but not cheap is to have it foam insulated, that way you would not need baffles, add a ridge vent, and need to build out the rafters to add the proper amount of insulation.
Thanks for the feedback. I understand corners were cut when this was built. However, we've lived here for a good few years now, full-time. We manage with the cold down to 20s just fine with just a space heater upstairs and a wood stove downstairs. Summers are worst I think.
What I plan on doing will be a big improvement. Now, I did think about the venting... One reason I think I'll stay away from making an attic... Though if NEED venting either way, I can install some other type of vent that I can do with what I have to work with.
I mean, I have access to the very top. And the more I think about it, the more I think considering adding drywall, then the wood paneling on top.
It's REALLY dry here in California. If I go from the very top, skip adding and attic, and just add insulation between the rafters, hang sheetrock over that, then the wood paneling... would I really need venting?
I would add framing perpendicular to the rafters in order to have somewhere to screw the drywall on. This would also reinforce the roof more, even though it's pretty strong as it is.
I feel this will make a huge difference not only in temperature control, but also in looks.
Our sunroom is about 20 years old here in Southern Ontario, Canada. It is a 4-season modular style sunroom made up of four-foot panels and is, in total, roughly 20 x 12 with windows along the three sides. The roof panels are about 4" thick and the ceiling has - to my knowledge - never leaked along the seams. (though it had leaked for a short while between where it meets the house)
We recently had the roof shingled over a plywood base, but the issue I am having precedes that.
One of the panels - at the seam - seems to be becoming disconnected from the adjacent panel. It is not leaking, but we are getting what appears to be a brown styrofoam kind of dust coming down from it.
It looks like they should just click together.... but they don't seem to.
Any thoughts on what I could do here, based on a knowledge of what I am working with and how these things fit together?
I assumed the skin on these panels would be aluminum, but one person who came over and tapped on it with his fingernails seems to think that, despite the places where it is corroding a bit, they might actually be plastic.
We were originally thinking to drywall over it, but it doesn't appear that there will be anything to affix strapping to. Even if we could just fasten it back into place that would be okay.
Thank you!
Chris
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Hello all! I need some help with this. I’m a talker so forgive my rambling. I’ll try to keep it short.
My house was originally built in the 1930’s roughly, and they added on a second half (bedroom and bathroom, there’s notes in the photos that’s why I’m mentioning it) around 20 years ago. This problem is the ceiling in the foyer front door area, approx 8.3ftx9ft square like shaped.
The people who lived here before said it’s been caving for awhile (we moved in dec 2019.) But it’s been getting progressively worse. This room has a closet with an attic entrance and my fiancé went up one time and said the “floor” is covered in insulation.
I tried to tap it up to see if it would move and it feels super fragile like it’s going to collapse.
I don’t [b]see [/b]furring strips, and I’m not sure how it’s suspended there. I see nails but I don’t see many nail spots on the outside of it when you look up. But there’s approx a 5inch gap between the ceiling and what’s above it and when you look inside the gap you don’t see much. DIY won’t let me upload a video so I tried to get as many pics in as possible.
The only reason I mention the bathroom/bedroom half of the house is because of water damage.
Literally where the “old house” meets the “new house” there’s 2 spots of previous water damage.
Literally
Bathroom= A
Bedroom = B
its like drawing a line A————-B of where the water spots are.
In the foyer on the other side of the wall is the bathroom. Up against the wall that separates the 2 rooms is a water mark. So that’s not far from this area.
(I made comments for each photo to understand where the water spots were in case that matters because I know moisture isn’t good lol)
I’m just not sure what to do. Try and knock it all down? Get glue or nails and try to push it back up? Above the ceiling looks like really not pretty shiplap lol. I can’t see how these are actually attached to it. Like pretend the gap wasn’t there & the ceiling was still in place, would that space between the ceiling and the “shiplap” still be there? How is the ceiling attached? That’s what I’m so confused about
The good news is this ceiling (the whole 8.3ftx9ft) isn’t attached to any other ceiling. It’s cordoned off basically room to room. Diff ceiling in diff rooms.
To me it looks like this kind of ceiling is interlocking, as shown, BUT the thing is it looks like long pieces of squares in strips. Aka why it’s falling like this specifically.
I don’t know. That’s why I’m here. LOL
Someone send help LOL!!!
I don’t want it to fall down one day while I’m working or my fiancé is working. I don’t mind a good ol DIY, but I need some kind of basis to know what I’m doing for any project. So if someone can even tell me what ceiling this is or anything at all, I can work with that and run with it.
I’m just here to try and protect my cats from having a ceiling fall on them. #protectwildlife
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[i]This is why I think it’s interlocking [/i]
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[i]Other side of this wall is the bathroom (to the right of the bedroom/bathroom doorway) & in that room (to the very right of this picture) is actually where a water spot is[/i]
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[i]This is what’s above the ceiling (peaking into the 2inch gap this is what’s above it)[/i]
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[i]Where they separated at the 2in gap[/i]
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[i]Standing to the left of the front door. [/i]
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[i]Almost a 2in gap. It honestly probably is 2inches though lol[/i]
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[i]The deep part of the gap[/i]
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[i]Pressing my phone into the gap this is what’s there. It looks like there’s about 5inches between the top side of the ceiling and whatever that is above it.[/i]
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[i]Again showing what’s above it. I don’t see furring strips but what else is it attached to? Is this suspended? To me it seems like a bunch of long strips of tiles somehow suspended[/i]
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[i]Where the deep gap separates from the ceiling that’s still attached[/i]
07-03-21, 12:26 PM
