Never worked with metal wall studs


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Old 11-17-23, 11:27 PM
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Never worked with metal wall studs

Is there a trick to anchoring screws into metal wall studs, or a special type screw to use? I was trying to install shower curtain rods & the end flanges, but had great difficulty using a power drill & conventional screw fasteners. When attempting to secure the fastener through the flange on the outside shower curtain corners, as well as at the shower stall itself, the screw didn't want to penetrate, but instead had a bouncy, resistant, pushing back type feel.


If you look closely, you'll see that I couldn't even get two screws in.
 

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11-21-23, 08:06 PM
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Metal studs are basically sheet metal and are very lightweight metal (24ga). Most sharp pointed screws (Ex: sheetrock screws) should penetrate without too much trouble. If you are having a tough time they might be structural metal which you can use self-tapping screws like PJ posted.

If you are still having trouble I would be worried that you are not drilling into a stud, but something else you may not want to drill into.
 
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Old 11-18-23, 05:49 AM
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"...conventional screw fasteners."
Whatever that means.

I would expect to hit a stud at very the end of the wall, but not where you are drilling. If you measure back from the very end of the wall the stud probably is between 1/2" and 2" back from the end. If looks like you are further back than that so you might not be hitting the stud. Almost any screw can easily go through sheetrock so you are hitting "something". The key is to determine what you are hitting. It could be a steel plate protecting electrical wiring. It could be masonry. It could be a plumbing pipe. Try looking in the holes you made. It should be able to at least tell if it's masonry or metal that you're hitting.
 
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Yes... metal studs will be bouncy and not very wide.
Typically only about an inch wide so you'd only be able to catch two screws with that flange.

With metal studs you need to drill a hole thru the stud for the screw or use self drilling screws.
You would need to practice with the self drilling screws as they're a little unwieldy.
Many times I'll pre-drill a hole in the metal stud even when using self drilling screws.
A 1/8" hole is usually good.
Many different sizes and type of self drilling screws available.....
 
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I tried pre-drilling a hole in the metal stud, but it too was bouncy & wouldn't penetrate the stud, but would rather just spin without penetration. What type of drill bit is recommended for pre-drilling/creating a pilot hole in the metal stud, prior to securing with the self-drilling screws?
 

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Steel studs are "[" shaped. If you put a screw in closer to the wide dimension there is not as much room for the part you are screwing into to flex. So try moving your screw or drill bit left or right a half inch. One of three things will happen. The stud will flex worse, or you will miss the stud entirely, or you will be close enough to the wide part of the stud that it can't flex as much and you will get penetration.
 
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Any high speed steel bit should work. Try starting with a new bit.
 
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Metal studs are basically sheet metal and are very lightweight metal (24ga). Most sharp pointed screws (Ex: sheetrock screws) should penetrate without too much trouble. If you are having a tough time they might be structural metal which you can use self-tapping screws like PJ posted.

If you are still having trouble I would be worried that you are not drilling into a stud, but something else you may not want to drill into.
 
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Thanks very much to PJmax & Tolyn Ironhand. The pilot hole (used a cobalt bit) & self-drilling screws did the job with ease. This was in a yoga studio, that I attend, & I had a clear view down the wall, after removing a drop-ceiling tile, to assure that I was drilling into a metal stud only.
 
 

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