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Hi. I'm looking into a system for my acreage, had my water tested at a Lab and it's very hard, Kinetico quoted $21,800.00

i'm looking into doing it myself but am unsure of size of softener

My water has: 73 gpg hardness
44 cfu per 100 ml. coliforms

Sodium and sulfates are 4 to 5 times Canadian Drinking Water Guideline Maximum

i'm planing on installing a new softener, Ultraviolet light, and whole home R O unit
there are 5 people in our house, 2 adults and 3 teens

Thanks for any help
 
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Originally Posted by Paverdude View Post
Hi. I'm looking into a system for my acreage, had my water tested at a Lab and it's very hard, Kinetico quoted $21,800.00

i'm looking into doing it myself but am unsure of size of softener

My water has: 73 gpg hardness
44 cfu per 100 ml. coliforms

Sodium and sulfates are 4 to 5 times Canadian Drinking Water Guideline Maximum

i'm planing on installing a new softener, Ultraviolet light, and whole home R O unit
there are 5 people in our house, 2 adults and 3 teens

Thanks for any help
Is your decimal point in the right place? Tell me more about your plans with a whole-house (POE) RO system...the whys, hows and whats.

Andy Christensen, CWS-II
Canada makes the best UVs
 
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Hi Thanks for your reply

All the numbers are right. The reason we are considering a whole home RO is due to the high tds and sodium and sulfates. We have replaced 3 dish washers 1 washer two showers two toilets and numerous faucets due to scale build up. One of hour largest concerns is the build up on the pipes in the house as we just hear a neighbor had to demolish and rebuild his house rather than ripping out the entire insides to replace pipes.

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What is included for $21,000?

Sorry, that seems weird fro even most small commercial sales.

Andy
 
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Whole house RO's do cost up to that much. That is a little high though. The most I have charged is $12,000.00. You have to have several pieces of equipment. A softener for the hardness, chlorinator/dechlorinator for the sulfur, holding tank ect.....I have done several w/h ro's for extreme water. I would use chlorination instead of a UV light. Let me know if I can help. I've set up systems that require little maintenance.
 
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I know what is involved with an POE RO but I was hoping he could give details.

Maybe he'll be back.
Andy
 
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I know what is involved with an POE RO but I was hoping he could give details.

Maybe he'll be back.
Andy
What type of details did you want?

Thanks
 
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Kinetico's quote

1. Kinetico 2100 water softener
2. UV Pure 10/50 ultra violet light
3. Kinetico TS 4000 whole home reverse osmosis
4. 2 300 gallon storage tanks
5. repressurization pump
6. Kinetico 1100 taste & odor filter
7. UV Pure 15/75 light
8. installation & shocking Total
$21,800.00
 
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No wonder the quote was for that. Is that Canadian dollars? The 2100 softener is right but I might not recommend the RO and UVs that was presented.

The UVs are some of the best available. Did they explain the unique features? I think onw ould be enough if properly placed in the sequence.

There is no such thing as a TS 4000. It is a TL 4000. Too much for residential systems. It will produce for more than you would use.
http://kineticoencyclopedia.com/Data...TL_0508_LR.pdf

The TS1200 would be a better choice.
http://kineticoencyclopedia.com/Data...TL_0508_LR.pdf

Also, these come with nano filtration membranes which can produce more water with less concentrate but remove only about 75% of TDS, still very good for wholehouse purposes.

One of the really great things with these ROs is the membrane rinse system. This keeps membranes clean for many years longer, making maintenance costs down considerably. That's a special feature.

The final 1100 carbon filter is nice but not really needed as smaller, cheaper filters can do it.

You would need the storage and pump for any whole house applaication of RO.
Where do come from to get that high of sodium?

Well, I am sure a great system can still be used.

Take care,
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Analyte Units Result
Calcium mg/L 260
Iron mg/L < 0.06
Magnesium mg/L 143
Manganese mg/L 0.28
Potassium mg/L 9.2
Sodium mg/L 1073
Bicarbonates mg/L 540
Bromides mg/L 0.3
Carbonates mg/L 0
Chlorides mg/L 265
Fluorides mg/L 0.24
Nitrates as N mg/L 12.1
Nitrites as N mg/L < 0.04
NO3 + NO2 as N mg/L 12.1
Sulfates mg/L 2693
Parameter Units Result
Electrical Conductivity μS/cm 5970
pH pH 7.97
Hardness (as CaCO3) mg/L 1238
Total Alkalinity (as CaCO3) mg/L 443
P-Alkalinity (as CaCO3) mg/L 0
Hydroxide (as CaCO3) mg/L 0
Total Dissolved Solids mg/L 4721
Total Organic Carbon mg/L -
Sulfides as S mg/L -
Microbiology Units Result
Total Coliform CFU/100 mL 44
Escherichia Coliform CFU/100 mL 0
Fecal Coliform CFU/100 mL -
71.61 TDS / EC Ratio 0.79
73.30 SAR 13.27
0.98 Saturation Index 1.3



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