Which would you pick??? (Stick welders)

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Old 06-28-05, 07:43 AM
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Which would you pick??? (Stick welders)

Looking at these three stick welders, they all three appear to be fairly the same, even in price...taking that into consideration which would be the best buy in your opinion...

HOBART Stickmate(r) LX 235 AC / 160 DC
http://www.hobartwelders.com/product...eLX_AC-DC.html
$545

THUNDERBOLT XL AC/DC 225 AND 300
http://www.millerwelds.com/products/...c_225_and_300/
$550

LINCOLN AC/DC 225/125
http://www.mylincolnelectric.com/Cat...eet.asp?p=2494
$547
 
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Old 06-28-05, 04:44 PM
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Advantage Lincoln.
- It's heavier (124# vs. 104# for the other two)
- It's older than dirt - been around for a very long time
- Parts availability should not be a problem
- Due to its popularity, finding a used one in decent shape should not be a problem
- Available through many home centers ($387 new at Home Depot)

Not to say that the Miller or Hobart is in any way inadequate, but if all that you need is a dependable stick welder with AC and DC capability, Lincoln is the way to go. I doubt that you will find a Miller or Hobart for near $387.

Consider however that 220-volt MIG welders, though somewhat more expensive, will likely have more resale value than any of these stick welders will ever have. Lincoln AC-only tombstones go for about $70-$80 on Ebay.
 
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by saying it's been around forever do you mean Lincoln as a company or this welder? i couldn't find any on ebay, but home depot did have the cheapest...
 
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I may be wrong, but I don't think the Lincoln has an infinite amperage control.
That can make welding sheet metal more difficult.
 
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Old 06-29-05, 02:32 AM
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they are from all good companies. hobart is a cheap miller machine. less bells and whistles. go with a miller before you go with the hobart if the price is in the same price range.

after looking at the specs for all three i remember why i bought an inverter. have you considered that you are going to be paying through the nose to feed these things electricity?? the lincoln takes down 50 amps on 230 volt and the miller/hobart eats down 47.5 amps at 230 volts. my inverter does 21 amps input at 200 output stick welding.

that lincoln model has been around for a long time. i think they uncovered one from ancient eygpt .

rob "redlight"
 
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For repairing farm equipment these units are just the ticket - reliable, cheap and enough power to get the job done with 1/8" 6011 or 6013 electrodes. What welding situations do you expect to encounter where one of these units would be used?
 
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i'm looking for something that can do sheet metal but also I probably won't weld anything thicker than 1/4"...115v would be great but i can make the jump to 230v or whatever if needed. I don' think i will be running it that often, so hopefully it won't cost that much to run it
 
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Old 06-29-05, 10:30 AM
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If you will go above 1/8" thickness, then a 220-volt unit is needed.
Take a look at the various 220-volt MIG welders by either Lincoln, Miller or Thermal Arc. The Thermal Arc 181 might fit your needs.
 
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Here was a welder on e-Bay. # 7528073478
I have the same one. Century 230/140 AC/DC
I only used my welder two times for 1/4" material so I cant say how well it will do on sheet metal.
If you compare it with the Miller and price I think its better.
The duty cycles are close to the same.
both have HI and LOW AC output.

The only draw back on this Century is the handle for adjusting the current you squeeze and push to set the current.
the crank handle is more precise in movement.

I have seen other Century, craftsman, older miller welders identical in looks to this welder with the crank handle.

Lincoln now owns Century.
The main thing that may go bad is the Diodes that convert AC to DC, if you know how to solder you can change then for about $20.00.
 
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If I were thinking of welding sheet metal, I wouldn't be looking at a stick welder. Mig is the way to go for that. If you MAY be welding 1/4" and are worried about a Mig handling that, think about this. American Railcar Industries makes railroad cars. They don't use stick welders...ALL Mig. Good luck.
 
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With the 235/160 machines the Hobart ad Miller are identical except for sheetmetal color. Can be had from TSC stores for 400$
 
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