Pressure tank question


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Old 06-13-05, 11:13 PM
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Pressure tank question

Hello first of thanks alot for the help.

Okay I have a well pump on a couple of hydrants that we use to water our grass and livestock. Our house isn't on this water supply system rather it is on the city water. Basically at the moment there is no pressure tank on the well pump so we have to turn the thing on manually at the main service panel by switching it's circuit breaker on and off. I was hoping that there might be a good way of solving this problem. I have read about the ones that are located inside but I would much rather locate a pressure tank or whatever that would work below the frost line where a hydrant is located inorder to save me all the hassle of having to run the pipe inside the house. Could I perhaps dig down where a hydrant is located below the frost line and simply cut a 1' of so section of the existing pipe, then hook up the pressure tank inlet to the existing pipe, then hook up the pressure tank outlet to the existing pipe, then run the wire to the tank, then check to make sure that all settings on the tank are good, and then make sure the tank works by turning on the water and eletrical supply line. After that simply backfill with dirt and enjoy. Would this work? Does one of these tanks exist? Perhaps there might be a better method? Thanks alot Will
 
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Old 06-14-05, 04:44 PM
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There are pressure tanks that are built for direct burial (well-x-trol and others make them) Even with these, the pressure switch cannot be buried (they are generally installed inside the well casing itself, connected with a length of rubber hose to allow you to pull it out to service it. All that said..... In my opinion, these setups are crap. The tanks seldom last long, you cannot get to them to check or change the pre-charge, the pressure switches corrode from the dampness, and the rubber hoses dry-rot. I personally would run the line inside (basement or whatever) and have the tank and controls where I can get to them. Hope this helps
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Old 06-17-05, 09:52 PM
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Hi it is me again

Thats toooooo bad. I live in a very cold climate and to do it the method that I suggested would be a project that I could probably handle. Inorder to install it inside the house a whoole lot of digging is necessary to get it to the spot and inorder to run it into my basement I would have to break up alittle concrete. As a Diy I have learned to do it right the first time though.

For a last question someone told me that it would hurt our pump if we left it running without having a hydrant open because of pressure buildup or something like that I suppose. Is this statement a fact. Thanks.

Will
 
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Old 06-18-05, 06:58 AM
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It is true. You never run a pump without the discharge open. When a pump is running but can't discharge the water, the water circulating in the pump head will eventually get very hot from friction. I've seen it melt plastic impellers and warp pump heads.
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Old 06-18-05, 10:46 PM
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Drat I have forgotten at times and left it on as long as a day even. Perhaps...well.....mayby this is a dumb question but how long is too long. Yet another reason why I should invest in a pressure tank I suppose. Thanks again Will
 
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Old 06-19-05, 12:30 PM
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How long is too long? is a good question. Down here where I'm at, where ambient temperatures often reach 115 degrees during the summer, it doesn't take long.
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Old 07-14-05, 08:15 PM
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Hello,

Could I just temporarily install a pressure tank to control that well pump of mine. At the moment the cost of installing it inside is too high and I would really like to have it on my system. Since I hardly use it during the winter could I perhaps just hook the pressure tank up to a hydrant with a durable detachable hose and run an electrical wire from the pressure tank to the basement where the electrical for the pump is located. The circuit breaker box for the house is located downstairs right next to an enclosed deck and a hydrant is close by here. The installation would be simple..... the pressure tank would be under a deck...... to get the electrical wire to the circuit box would only require about 5 feet of wire and the hose length only needs to be 20 feet long from the hydrant to the tank. For winter all I'd have to do is drain the pressure tank or put it away for storage. Perhaps this is just wishfull thinking but could I somehow make this work. Thanks alot as always. Will
 
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Old 07-15-05, 08:40 AM
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I'm still not sure what your tring to do.

Are you wanting to install a tank and pressure switch to control your pump that is in another location?

If so, be sure to put the switch with the tank. It can't be mounted too far away from the tank. I assume you are putting the tank on the pressure line of the pump not the suction.

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Old 07-15-05, 09:17 PM
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The pressure tank and switch are on the pressure side of the pump. Hmmmm.........how to explain this better. I'll try it with a drawing. I posted it on the internet and it can be viewed on this site. http://advanceddrugtesting.0catch.com/untitled.bmp . Hope you can read that and everything makes sense with it. Thanks for the help. Please clarify whether or not this setup will work. Oh ya you can't click on the link to go to the site you have to copy and paste it in the address bar above because the site doesn't except hyperlinks.
 
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Old 07-16-05, 06:41 AM
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Ok, let me see if I have this right. Your taking the water form the hydrant and pressurizing a tank of some sort. On this tank you have a pressure switch. The switch controls "what"? Where is the water from the hydrant coming from? And what are you going to do with the water in the tank?


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Old 07-19-05, 07:54 PM
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This must be the place,....

Sorry to interupt, but this looks like as good a place as any to but in, an ask a related question. My preasure tank and or pump keeps clicking on and off about every three seconds whenever the water is turned on full blast. As it does, the preasure/flow fluctuates just a bit up, and then down, then back up, and so on, each time the thing clicks in every three seconds. Is the tank bad? New regulator switch? New tank? Tank full of sediment? I have to clean out the water heater about once a year. Who knows how old this thing is,...I just rent. But the owner isn't going to fix it. What sounds like the fixer on this? Thanks a bunch,
Tony.
 
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Old 07-20-05, 06:00 AM
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Sounds like a waterlogged tank Tony.

If the owner doesn't fix it pretty quick, he will need to replace the motor as well as the tank.

To put it simply, the tank has no air in it. Be it a bladder tank or galvanized, it needs air.

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