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Old 07-14-11, 08:38 AM
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Well water pump stopped

I went away for the weekend when I came back I noticed that the power had must have went out when I was away as all the clocks were blinking. Went to wash up noticed that the water pressure was low and then it stopped all together. Went to the well shed and noticed that the breaker had tripped reset the breaker but it tripped again, checked breaker and it is good. Looked thought cu301 manual and tried there bypass method but the breaker still tripped?
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Old 07-14-11, 09:22 AM
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Hi.

Is it a submersible pump, jet pump? How did you check the breaker to see if its good?

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It sounds like you've got a bad breaker or a short somewhere. I quickly check breakers by swapping it with another breaker of the same amperage. If the suspect breaker trips when moved to the other circuit it's a good indication it's the breaker. If test/swapped breaker trips when moved to your pump circuit then it's something on that circuit. It could be anything on that circuit so don't limit your search to the pump. It could be wiring in the walls, pressure switch, pump, bad/shorted connection...
 
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Old 07-14-11, 10:05 AM
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Thanks for the quick replies.

I swapped the breaker with another one and it still tripped, the pump is the only thing on that breaker. Traced the cable as its a short run but saw nothing wrong with it.

The pump is in the well so not sure how if it is a jet pump how would I check?

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Old 07-14-11, 10:10 AM
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Test the well pump. Here is a link.

TESTING SUBMERSIBLE PUMP MOTORS

Let us know how it goes.

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Old 07-17-11, 11:37 AM
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Post Please share your knowledge with me

Sorry new to this forum and really need help with well,because I also have no water from my well. My pressure tank is about 4-5 yrs old, prob. 50 gals. Sorry can't give more infomation. Water running 5 days ago, and pressure switch popped, and blew circuit breaker, several taps to power switch and circuit breaker would turn the system on for a day, then 1/2 day then clothes washer load or shower would pop pressure switch and circuit breaker. Installed new pressure switch and turned on circuit breaker, system started humming but again within 3 mins. pressure switch popped tried 2 more times and quit...now need to know what part to check or replace. I live on disability with my sister who starts chemo tomorrow, plate is full so must do the work myself. Anything that could help me not waste money on wrong part will help. I have a Red Jacket box, but not sure what to do next. Thanks
 
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Old 07-17-11, 12:21 PM
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Hi,

I am not sure how much I can help you. It would seem the issue is electrical, and I would think its the capacitor in the red box is faulty, or the pump itself down the well.

This is high voltage and you need to be careful. You dont need anymore trouble.

There are instructions in post #5 on how to test the pump.

Here is how to test the cap.

How to Test a Start Capacitor | eHow.com

Again if your not sure get a pro. You can be injured. Possibly fatal.


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Old 07-17-11, 12:34 PM
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What "popped" on the pressure switch? Have you swapped the breaker to another identically ampered circuit to see if the breaker is good? Do you know if the well pump is submersible or jet type? Not too sure what you mean by "several taps to power switch". Fill us in on that.
 
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Old 07-17-11, 12:54 PM
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It seemd like something in the pressure switch popped as I was looking up at the circuit breaker I heard a pop noise from below at the pressure switch. There are 4 contacts in the pressure switch and the 2 to the left seemed burnt so I replaced the pressure switch. I assumed the circuit breaker is ok because it started the pressure switch humming and then the pressure switch popped again. It sounds like an old fuse popping (before circuit breakers). I believe it is a jet type. Several taps to the pressure switch is a womans ways of giving the seemingly offending part a little "nudge" to urge it on. Not that bright but was all the strength I had left to give. I have not bothered with the circuit breaker yet because I figured if it made the pressure switch hum it was working properly. Again I am turning off the circuit breaker before working and will turn off main breakers if a new breakers needs to be installed. Thanks
 
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Old 07-17-11, 01:05 PM
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OK, I see. There are electrical terms involving "tap" connections, and I thought you had something between the breaker and the pressure switch. I'd have done the same thing, so no biggie.
It does sound as if your pump may be overloading the circuit, starting with the switch, and when it fails the breaker pops. Check out the links in Mike's post, and see if you can get some help with the pump to determine if it is seizing up, causing the problem. Pumps are pretty easy to change out, although it may take a pro do to it right. Let us know.
 
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Old 07-17-11, 02:26 PM
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Thanks for the help, I'm ever positive and hope it is a faulty capacitor, all I have is a multimeter so not sure how to set it up, but will figure it out. There will be water this week...somehow, someway and not just rain water. Forgot about "tap" connections...but I've forgotten a lot it seems...will try to be clearer in future posts. Thanks again gonna follow Mike's posts and see what I can see...What a world, what a world!!!
 
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Old 07-17-11, 03:01 PM
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You never stated if the pump is down the well or not. I was assuming it is down the well because you have a control box (red box) Is that correct?

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Old 07-17-11, 03:52 PM
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Yes I have a control box and am hoping that is the problem, not knowing the cost of a new box I guess I should try to test capacitor with my multimeter, but not sure, gonna follow testing submersible pump control box instructions link at bottom of your testing sub. pump motors post. Not sure if I would need a part or a new box. Time will tell. Thank you for your kindness.
 
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Old 07-17-11, 03:56 PM
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What is the model # of the contol box?

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Old 07-17-11, 07:02 PM
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box where model number is is blank I found LR11122 and ENC2
 
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Old 07-17-11, 10:34 PM
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Have you opened the box? There may be some info in there. ITT owns redjacket I believe.

In that box is the cap and relay.

Red jacket has a watt knot surge device. If you have one in the control box it could be bad also.

It could be at the pressure switch but you said you changed the switch.

http://www.redjacketwaterproducts.com/pdf/IM122.pdf



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Tides have changed and upon arrival home my grandson had discovered that the wires on the pipes coming out of the ground had started a fire and melted insolation surrounding the pipes. Luckily we have had a ton of storms so it must have been wet, so a full fire was averted. Guess I really have a big job ahead, although splicing the wires has been mentioned. On to the next step, as soon as I figure that out.
 
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Finally decided to call a well man, as not to injure myself. He came out yesterday and hooked up to mom's well next door for the night. He was back this morning at 6:30am with his boom truck. A fire was started by shorted wires burnt below well cap. He had water up and running by 8:00am. Thank all of you so much for all the suggestions...you guys rock and are certainly helpful. Have a great day!
 
 

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