Seepage pit aeration


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Old 04-19-13, 02:08 PM
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Seepage pit aeration

Hi I am new here. I have seepage pits that are slow draining they are two 1000 gal tanks in the same hole they must be clogged with biomat the system is from 1994 I want to change over to a aerobic system.

I have been reading this thread and find it very informing.


http://www.doityourself.com/forum/we...lp-advice.html

Thank you.

My question is should I have it terra lifted first? I would like to have peace of mind asap. I plan on aerating the pit but am still shopping around for the best price. Money is tight. Mc mastercar has a pump for about 300 bucks. Where is the best place to buy a system? by best I mean cheapest. Any feed back would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Old 04-19-13, 02:50 PM
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Hey Mark.... Hmmm Oakridge!!1 My old stomping ground as a kid. Rolled a 79 supra celica into the woods on the rt 23 s turns as a kid...Ha, ha...


Ok enough of that. 1994. Hmm may be best to install a tank next to that and install a bull run valve. Use the new pit for 3 years then switch back and forth every year.

You need to explain your tank. Do you have a filter at the exit port? How are the tanks/pits tied together? Is the a D box.

Please explain as much as possible.

I am going to move your post to its own thread, with a link to this one.
 
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Old 04-19-13, 02:56 PM
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Oh additionally the teralift system I dont think is good. Just my opinion. It does not get rid of the biomat from what I know.

The money is best spent on a new pit.

Oh take pics. Let see it. Whats the levels in the pits? Is there a lid? have you had them pumped???
 
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No d box that I could find. I need to dig up the pits to see how they are tied together. I am just getting in to this whole thing. I think there is one line to one pit and the other is tied to it. I snaked it out from the septic tank outlet the pit is 28 ft away from the tank and I put 75 ft of 1 in snake in with no problems. I think the other 45 ft or so just coiled up in the pit. a lot of black water came out when I pulled the snake out. last time I had the tank pumped I was getting run back from the pits [about 3 weeks ago] it seems better now but I know it wont last long. the new NJ septic laws went into effect last april 2012 and they are very strict. need a engineer for 2,500 to 3,000 dollars before anyone will even give you an estimate on a new system. seepage pits are discouraged. New system will cost anywhere from 18,000 to 35,000 from what I have been told so far. not to mention ripping out the deck and taking down the pool. I hope that aeration is the answer. 6 people in my house septic gets a lot of use no grey water tank everything goes into the septic.
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I was getting run back from the pits [about 3 weeks ago]
I had same problem. But my septic was only 3 years old when I moved in. The previous owner abused the septic is why and solids went out to the pit.

My years of water conservation and a outlet filter, plus aeration has helped and I have had good results.


need a engineer for 2,500 to 3,000 dollars before anyone will even give you an estimate on a new system.
This is true but untrue. You can do it with a lower grade engineer. I will find the document. It will save you thousands.....

Best change all your shower heads tpo 1.25 GPM asap. Also sinks to 1 gpm... Need to put a timer in the showers. 10 min. When the bell dings get out.

You need to find the lids to the two pits....

i will post more later. Tell me what you think you want to do? Your system may have had a tank added. It may be cheaper to add but not to the existing and separate.
 
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The house was built in 64. it had two seepage pits they failed in 94, 30 years. they were abandoned in place and the new ones put in I have been here since 97 and am afraid that we abused the system. doing laundry six or seven loads in a row everyone taking showers in the morning etc... the perk is very good here old sand pits and bank run. there is no filter on the septic just a T at the inlet and outlet. Besides biomat there must be a good amount of waste in the pits. the first thing I think I need to do is have the pits pumped out and see just how bad they are. The problem is I think only one is accessible I think the other is under a concrete walk way. thanks for your feedback. your aerobic seepage pit experiment has given me hope.
 
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they were abandoned in place and the new ones put
What do you mean???? The old ones can be tapped back into. They have rejuvenated itself I am sure. You may ne able to get off cheap with a bull run valve.... Alternating pits.
 
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from what I understand they were crushed and filled in.
 
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Tim, is your septic tank the kind with a flowover to the secondary area where it then goes out to the field or leach tank ? I am wondering because I have this 'two' tank system and was told to place the aerator in the second tank. If it's in the first tank it will cause too much aggitation and too much material will travel to the second ( output ) tank. Thought ??
 
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Patrick11, I had 2 dry wells. Waste water flowed from septic tank to first dry well ( leach pit whatever the regional name for it is ) There was a second dry well that received the over flow from the first dry well. I put the aerator in the first dry well. What your saying makes some sense. When I first started aerating I bled air pressure from the aerator so the wasn't too much turbulence in the dry well. It was starting to work. Then I had the brain storm of pushing more air ( if a little is good more is better right ??? ) through the aerator. Thats when progress stopped. I DO think I stirred the solids in the dry well up and made the problem worse. I could see "stuff" churning in the water. I decided to put a third tank in. It was installed in front of my first dry well. Hope the other 2 dry well will rejuvenation over time.
 
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Old 04-26-13, 07:27 PM
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I guess you jumped the gun without the best advice IMO.

Definitely should of separated the old and new with a bull run valve.... ugggg ( I think I stated this before to you, no? )

It would have been the last $$$ you spent on that system IMO....


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Yes you did mention the bull valve. Space for the new was pretty limited so placing it it series withe the other dry wells was pretty much the best option. The new dry well never over flows into the next (old) dry well. We use very little water and have good drainage
 
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Old 04-27-13, 08:10 AM
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I looked at 10+ sites for an aerator system and talked to most of em. I ordered from Septic Solutons. I think their diffuser is better for not clogging. They have service parts for what they sell and accessories.
BTW...if you watch a couple of their in-house demos on Utube...don't get distracted by the " I am not an actor " employee. :-)
 
 

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