Water pump without electricity?


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Old 08-01-13, 07:19 AM
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Water pump without electricity?

I saw different designs for water pumps with out electricity but the difference is that I am using it indoor and it is from still water.

In the below image you will see my idea for pumping water without electricity that I gathered from the internet. I would like to know several things about it. Such as.

How to know what will the flow of the water be? What needs to change to increase or decrease the water flow.

It works by always keeping the water pressure equal inside the upper tank.

I believe that every time you open the tap the water will flow through to keep the pressure equal.

You can also refer me to other ideas if you have any.

The idea came to me from the below link. It is the same as the one in the 2nd link but without the free energy wheel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGuDlLcdLUw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KW_21SDai4o
 
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Old 08-01-13, 08:07 AM
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It's a siphon.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siphon

It doesn't pump water as such, just "the law of communicating vessels"
means the water on both sides of a pipe is under the same air pressure, and rises to the same level.

A siphon actually works by air pressure, not vacuum.



Practically, in the drawing, it looks like the LEFT side reservoir is just a bit lower than the RIGHT side outlet.
You'd need to make the right side outlet LOWER than the open reservoir level to get any flow.
 

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Old 08-01-13, 09:35 AM
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No, this is not the one that I am asking about, I know about this idea.

Thanks
 
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Old 08-01-13, 10:18 AM
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Another silly free energy/something for nothing type thing. As soon as the vacuum is broken for any reason (leaky faucet, interruption of flow due to low water, etc) game over. Also...pressure of the outflow is completely dependent on height. 6' or so will give decent flow and volume...but very little pressure...a child could cover the end of the pipe with their thumb and easily stop it. Any rise in the piping at the final delivery point will decrease the pressure proportionately.

This is why water tanks and towers are places high up on hills or 200ft in the air on legs. Even then, most need extra pumps to provide pressure to the distribution system.

I know of mountain types who collect spring water in a tank far up the hill and it provides plenty of pressure as long as the tank is full. Not everyone can do that.
 
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Old 08-01-13, 11:20 AM
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Ok, thanks, I will use an electrical pump then.
 
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Old 08-01-13, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Johnc00l
Water pump without electricity?
I saw different designs for water pumps with out electricity but the difference is that I am using it indoor and it is from still water.
Originally Posted by Johnc00l
Ok, thanks, I will use an electrical pump then.
Eh, if you just need to move still water from a tank, a hose and siphon works.

Now, if you have some capacity to allow water to FLOW, then yes, you can pump water without electricity.

Plastic Hydraulic ram pump - YouTube

Home-made Hydraulic Ram Pump

Hydraulic Ram Pump
 

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Old 08-01-13, 02:30 PM
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Great, thanks for the tip.
 
 

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