HELP: Exterior sump pump drainage pipe leaking
#1
12-23-13, 11:38 AM
HELP: Exterior sump pump drainage pipe leaking
I just found out i have a couple of leaks in my exterior sump pump drainage pipes. The leak is coming from a couple of spots (circled in red).
One spot is coming from a cement joint between two large pipes, the other leak is coming from the joint between the large orangish pipe and the smaller metal pipe. I have no idea how to go about fixing these leaks, can someone please help with some advice?
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One spot is coming from a cement joint between two large pipes, the other leak is coming from the joint between the large orangish pipe and the smaller metal pipe. I have no idea how to go about fixing these leaks, can someone please help with some advice?
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#2
12-23-13, 12:11 PM
Group Moderator
You have clay pipe and it looks like your sump pump line was just shoved in the end and maybe mortared in place. Simplest would be to clean out the clay line (I'm sure it's full of dirt at this point) and seal the joints and openings with mortar or hydraulic cement.
Do you know where the clay pipe drains?
Do you know where the clay pipe drains?
#3
12-23-13, 12:18 PM
the clay pipes drains about 20 ft out into the middle of my back lawn (i think).
Hows this for a plan of attack...
1)cut the 1.5 inch pipe, cut the 4" clay pipe, then connect the pipes with these items...
Fernco 4 in. x 4 in. PVC DWV Mechanical Flexible Coupling-P1056-44 at The Home Depot
4 in. x 1-1/2 in. PVC C.I. and Plastic to C.I. and Plastic Flexible Coupling-1056-415 at The Home Depot
JM eagle 4 in. x 10 ft. PVC Sewer and Drain Pipe-1610 at The Home Depot
Hows this for a plan of attack...
1)cut the 1.5 inch pipe, cut the 4" clay pipe, then connect the pipes with these items...
Fernco 4 in. x 4 in. PVC DWV Mechanical Flexible Coupling-P1056-44 at The Home Depot
4 in. x 1-1/2 in. PVC C.I. and Plastic to C.I. and Plastic Flexible Coupling-1056-415 at The Home Depot
JM eagle 4 in. x 10 ft. PVC Sewer and Drain Pipe-1610 at The Home Depot
#4
12-23-13, 12:21 PM
Banned. Rule And/Or Policy Violation
I'd get rid of all that oldpipe and replace it with new PVC.
There's going to be joint like that every ft. or so.
Roots can grow right into the joints. It's near imposable to lay with a proper slope.
There's going to be joint like that every ft. or so.
Roots can grow right into the joints. It's near imposable to lay with a proper slope.
#5
12-23-13, 01:02 PM
Replacing the whole pipe is something that i would definitely like to do, but unfortunately not at this time, as the weather doesnt seem ideal.
One problem with my plan, is that the 1.5 inch pipe and the clay pipe arent in a perfect straight line, so im not sure connecting the pipes with a pvc pipe would work. What king of piping or fittings can i use that would allow me to join the 2 pipes together without needing the pieces to connect in a perfect straight line. Do they make a flexible pvc pipe?
One problem with my plan, is that the 1.5 inch pipe and the clay pipe arent in a perfect straight line, so im not sure connecting the pipes with a pvc pipe would work. What king of piping or fittings can i use that would allow me to join the 2 pipes together without needing the pieces to connect in a perfect straight line. Do they make a flexible pvc pipe?
#6
12-24-13, 06:22 AM
Do they make a flexible pvc pipe?
No, but you can probably use a combination of fittings of various degrees of turn to achieve something close. I agree that the best thing to do is dump the clay pipe and go all PVC.
No, but you can probably use a combination of fittings of various degrees of turn to achieve something close. I agree that the best thing to do is dump the clay pipe and go all PVC.
#7
12-24-13, 10:43 AM
Group Moderator
From the outlet end of your clay pipe do you think you could shove 1 1/2" PVC pipe back to your sump line? Tape off the leading end of the pipe so it does not get packed with dirt and shove it up to the sump pipe and connect the two, bypassing the leaky clay pipe.
If that won't work you can try the rubber boots you linked. They can accommodate a fair bit of misalignment and if you need more you can use rigid fittings or even short niblet of 1 1/2" pipe to join two Fernco boots together to provide even more flexibility. It's hoakey but should get you through the winter. Then some nice spring or summer day dig up that clay and replace it with plastic with glued fittings so tree & grass roots can't get in.
If that won't work you can try the rubber boots you linked. They can accommodate a fair bit of misalignment and if you need more you can use rigid fittings or even short niblet of 1 1/2" pipe to join two Fernco boots together to provide even more flexibility. It's hoakey but should get you through the winter. Then some nice spring or summer day dig up that clay and replace it with plastic with glued fittings so tree & grass roots can't get in.
#8
12-31-13, 12:18 PM
So here is what my finished solution looks like. This is the way everything is gonna stay till summertime, when i can rip out all of the clay pipe and replace with PVC as was suggested. The ground is completely frozen now, so im just covering the hole with a board for now.
On a side note, cutting that clay pipe was not fun...i used a reciprocating saw with a diamond blade ($16x2) and it dulled completely before i even made it though, bought a 2nd blade and dulled that one completely cutting through the small cast iron pipe.
Thanks to all the helpful responses!
http://imageshack.com/a/img138/7161/owei.jpg
On a side note, cutting that clay pipe was not fun...i used a reciprocating saw with a diamond blade ($16x2) and it dulled completely before i even made it though, bought a 2nd blade and dulled that one completely cutting through the small cast iron pipe.
Thanks to all the helpful responses!
http://imageshack.com/a/img138/7161/owei.jpg
