Air bubbles in stream after pump runs awhile


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Old 06-25-15, 06:39 PM
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Air bubbles in stream after pump runs awhile

I am resurrecting an old well and I do not have any details on the well capacity. I currently have a manual switch and the pump discharges outside through 1" pipe. After running the pump for awhile (I have been clearing out sedimemt and iron/manganese deposits) a small stream of air bubbles is noticed, however the water volume does not decrease noticeably and there is no significant noise from the well. I am wondering if the drawdown comes close enough to the top of the pump that a vortex is forming causing the air. The casing is 4" and there is not much clearance between pump and casing. The water is pretty clear now, and I seem to be able to run indefinitely without loss of volume.

Is a vortex the likely cause, and if so do I need to be concerned? Or is there something else going on (that I need to be concerned about)?

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Old 06-25-15, 06:51 PM
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How about the pump itself..... submersible, shallow/deep well ?
 
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Old 06-26-15, 05:45 AM
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The well bottom is about 95 feet below the basement floor, static water level has been about 15 feet below the floor. I set the pump down 80 feet. It is a 1/2 HP 230V 3-wire submersible pump, rated at 10 GPM at this depth. I have not done a precise measurment, but it seems to be delivering close to its rating. Drop pipe is a single length of polyethelene 1" pipe.
 
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Old 06-26-15, 07:03 AM
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I suppose a vortex is possible especially since you've probably got a very high flow rate if the only thing connected is 1" pipe which you are letting run free. If you are getting a vortex I would assume though that you would pump the well dry and draw a huge amount of air soon after. With a 1" pipe and wire inside a 4" diameter casing I doubt a vortex could be very tall so if it's happening the water level is down pretty close to the pump.

Another possibility is if you have a hole in the pipe down in the hole. When the water level is high the hole is covered but when it's pumped down it could suck in air via a venturi action.
 
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Old 06-26-15, 07:54 AM
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Thanks, Pilot Dane, I wondered about a leak but thought that was unlikely with a single continuous length of polyethelene pipe. I do not ever seem to pump the well dry, so it seems that the water level is at a stable point. If it is a vortex, I must have just been lucky to get the pump set at exactly the right/wrong depth. Having no information about the local water table or this well, I can't guess whether a 65 foot drawdown is reasonable.

To review, for the first half hour or more of pumping (full flow) there is no air.
 
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Old 06-26-15, 08:06 AM
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I'll add that my intended use of the well is for watering the lawn/garden through standard garden hoses and sprinklers, so I may never see this air situation when connected to 3/4" plumbing, garden hoses, etc. Now that the well is pumping clear, I would only use this discharge path if it needed to be flushed again in the future.
 
 

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