How to run a second water line from an established well??
#1
05-13-17, 07:09 AM
How to run a second water line from an established well??
I have a well at 48 feet and making 60 gallons per minute. A 1/2 pump and a small pressure tank for my in laws home.
I would like to t into the line and run 325 feet to establish water to our home.
1. Current pressure in my inlaws how is week with no filters or softeners. If i T after their tank and run to another pressure tank for my home does this effect their pressure? Will mine be improved? Should I bury a 500 gallon tank and draw from it!
Thanks for help got the line dUg 5 feet deep and read to get this done!
I would like to t into the line and run 325 feet to establish water to our home.
1. Current pressure in my inlaws how is week with no filters or softeners. If i T after their tank and run to another pressure tank for my home does this effect their pressure? Will mine be improved? Should I bury a 500 gallon tank and draw from it!
Thanks for help got the line dUg 5 feet deep and read to get this done!
#2
05-13-17, 07:17 AM
Welcome to the forums! Pressure is pressure. I think what your problem would be is VOLUME. If that is your only water source (if drilling a second well is out of the question), Increasing the size of your pump and installing a 62 gallon pressure tank on your end would (should) give adequate volume and pressure, provided it isn't all uphill to your house. Then you will need to increase pipe size to account for the lifting capabilities of your pump. We don't know where you are located, so filling out your profile will help us give you better answers.
#4
05-13-17, 04:19 PM
I would leave the existing pressure tank(s) in place and operating.
Additional pressure tanks, each pre-pressurized as if it were the only pressure tank, will lengthen the time between pump starts (all other things including water volume being drawn being equal) which is advantageous.
Additional pressure tanks, each pre-pressurized as if it were the only pressure tank, will lengthen the time between pump starts (all other things including water volume being drawn being equal) which is advantageous.
#5
05-13-17, 07:05 PM
Super Moderator
In addition to friction losses in the piping you will have a pressure loss due to the height above the pump.
How much higher is your house?
Pressure loss for height is about .5 psi per foot of rise.......If your house is 20 feet above the pump the pressure loss would be about 10 psi.
This means that if the pressure switch turns the pump off at 40 psi, the maximum pressure at your house would be 30 psi.
You would need to adjust the pressure switch on the pump to satisfy your house pressure.
How much higher is your house?
Pressure loss for height is about .5 psi per foot of rise.......If your house is 20 feet above the pump the pressure loss would be about 10 psi.
This means that if the pressure switch turns the pump off at 40 psi, the maximum pressure at your house would be 30 psi.
You would need to adjust the pressure switch on the pump to satisfy your house pressure.
#6
05-14-17, 05:09 AM
Group Moderator
How many fixtures (bathrooms, kitchen, sillcocks...) in your house do you want to supply?
To reduce the frictional loss over such a long run use the largest pipe you can. I would probably use at least 1" and probably go up to 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" black poly.
To reduce the frictional loss over such a long run use the largest pipe you can. I would probably use at least 1" and probably go up to 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" black poly.
#7
05-14-17, 06:43 AM
10-12 fixtures and silcocks.
It's no more than 20 feet above the pump.
Was choosing 1.5 black ploy for line.
I have to replace the 1/2 pump as it is 16 years old and just think it should be replaced when all is being done?
Is 60 gallons a minute good flow?
It's no more than 20 feet above the pump.
Was choosing 1.5 black ploy for line.
I have to replace the 1/2 pump as it is 16 years old and just think it should be replaced when all is being done?
Is 60 gallons a minute good flow?
#8
05-14-17, 07:01 AM
Forum Topic Moderator
60 gallons a minute that is a Hugh amount. That is 12 , 5 gallon buckets in a minute that is fire hose amounts. I have city water 3/4 pipe and dough I get 5 gallons a minute.
#11
05-14-17, 10:21 AM
Forum Topic Moderator
Use a 1 or 5 gallon bucket and fill it. Time it to fill will give you a gallon per minute.60 gallons would take 5 seconds to fill a 5 gallon bucket.
#12
05-14-17, 03:43 PM
Group Moderator
With your existing 1/2 hp pump I doubt you can pump 60 gallons a minute from the well so you really can't test it. In most cases the wells output is at best "estimated" by the well drillers. Still, 60 gpm is almost off the charts good.
When choosing your new well pump don't just go by horsepower. There are two parts to every pump, the motor and the pump. Look at the charts for whatever pumps you are considering and match the pressure (head) and volume that best suites your needs.
When choosing your new well pump don't just go by horsepower. There are two parts to every pump, the motor and the pump. Look at the charts for whatever pumps you are considering and match the pressure (head) and volume that best suites your needs.
#13
05-16-17, 05:45 AM
Pump handles 10 gpm.
So as a review, I t into the line after the existing pressure tank to my pressure tank and all should be fine?
Of the 300' total about 200 is even or downhill to current well it's the last 75-100 feet.
So as a review, I t into the line after the existing pressure tank to my pressure tank and all should be fine?
Of the 300' total about 200 is even or downhill to current well it's the last 75-100 feet.
#14
05-16-17, 07:33 AM
Super Moderator
Just use one tank.
Youll have issues with another tank that far. ( Cycling of pump to fill and equalize second tank.)
Get a bigger main tank..
And yes run larger pipe
Youll have issues with another tank that far. ( Cycling of pump to fill and equalize second tank.)
Get a bigger main tank..
And yes run larger pipe
#15
05-16-17, 07:51 AM
Super Moderator
After thinking about it your better off with a buried tank with a float for the other building IMO..
Theres not enough GPM and the pressure loss may be too great..
That way youll have your own tank and pump for the other building...
Theres not enough GPM and the pressure loss may be too great..
That way youll have your own tank and pump for the other building...
