my neighbor caled me up and asked me for some help it getting her well pump going. she has a myers deep well pump and it is in the basement and the point is just outside the wal. the injector sets on the point. she told me the well is like 60 to 100 foot down. i do not understand how that injector can bring up water form that deep. i guess if the well had standing water at like 30' the it might work. anyway she said the last time it ran it did not produce much pressure. so now i have to cap the outlet and connect a short hose from the utility sink to the pump outlet side and try to prime it and then see how much water she gets from that line. i guess i could get a pressure gage and connect it to that valve to see what the pressure is but if she is not getting much water then the pressure is poinless at this time.

so because i have never worked on this type of well can anyone tell me if that injector is the type that fits over the point and has a rubber ring that gets squeezed to make the seal? then pump is about 5' inside the basement from the point. i guess the point could be a bit plugged and it may be pointless to deal with it. in favor of just putting in a new point. but for startes i have to see it it will at least prime.

so at a minimum i will need to cut the 1 1/4" pvc to that injector and cut the bolts to it and take the injector off and maybe see if i can hook up a pitcure pump and see what it gets for water. but if the water table is like 30' down the hand pump may not even work either.

so all that said it practical to have the injector setting on the point that may be 60' down? the injector looks like the picture below. this one looks like it squeezes a rubber seal around the point to seal. so it is possible for me to take it off and see if it is any good. so what might i look for in doing an inspection. i then will need to reconnect it so i think rubber 2" hose and hose clamps will the the better option for reconning this one or maybe a new one if i can find one.
also if i do take this all apart i think i will drop a ling down it the well to see where the water lever is.

so can anyone here tell meif this is actually a praticl setup for this point and pump see the pump setup that dark part is a check and going the correct direction. but it may be defective as well. i have not yet got that far
thanks for any ideas and or hepl on this system. the top pine goes into the top of the injector for suction and the bottom goes into the bottom of the injector.



Wayne 56322-WYN1 - 2" Deep Well Jet Assembly For CWS75 (30'- 50') & CWS100 (30'- 50') Convertible Well Pumps

 

Moved to well forum.

A single pipe well can only pick up from approx 25' max.
A two line pipe system can pick up from approx 80' max.

With a two pipe system.... one line brings the water up and the other line sends water down under pressure to the point to get the process started and to keep it going. There should be a foot valve in the hybrid point. In your case there probably is and it's leaking. That would be the reason for one topside.

In your picture.... the line with the check valve is the line TO the pump. The supply line.
The other/bottom pipe is the charge line down to the point.

I'm not a well pro but deep two pipe systems can be very difficult to prime.
A submersible pump would be a much better choice.

 

Since the well didn't generate much pressure before it's possible the venturi in the ejector is partially clogged. To service it you need to pull the well but it's really simple to correct when you get it above ground.

 

thanks, i just found this reply. what i may do for her is to cut the lines to the pump and take that injector off and see if i can either clean it or repair it. she said down the road a guy has a 100' well i do not yet know how deep this well is as i have not yet opened it up to drop a line down to see the depth and the water table depth. i'm tempted to just pull the point and take it apart and clean the point and then drop it back down the same hole, i figure it will go back easy for about 3/4 the original depth, and then i may have to finish driving it.
if this injector is not serviceable does anyone know where i might get another one? it may not be repairable. i suppose if could be plugged with a pc of rust. i do not think it picked up a stone as in our area no well driller puts down a pipe without a screen on it they never did

looking at the photo of what the injector i posted looks like do you think that unit may have a smaller pipe connected to it and that smaller pipe is actually down into the water table? because that photo shows all those parts i wonder if i was to take that part off her well if i would actually find a smaller pipe inside the 2" pipe i can see and is actually a drop pipe going down into the well?

thanks for any help on this

 

does anyone have a manual for the Wayne 56322-WYN1 - 2" Deep Well Jet Assembly For CWS75 (30'- 50') & CWS100 (30'- 50') Convertible Well Pumps? i really do not want to learn as i go on this unit if i can find a manual. if this injector is actually the part that sets on the well-point and then has a drop tube that goes down to the water level that could be 50 or more feet down and then i have to pull it up and start taking it apart as i pull it up, to get the injector valve that may be setting on the bottom and then a screen just below that. i'm kind of thinking that is how this is based on all those parts i see in the photo of it. and that it is not possible to pull the water up a 2" well to that top part. so i contacted that company and they told me they do not have a setup or operating manual for that model of injector anymore. and like some have said, somewhere in this system there just may be a blockage, but i may have to pull the whole thing up just to find that. that is why a manual would be nice so i have an idea of how it goes together.

the lady called all the well drillers in the area and no one will touch that unit. maybe they have no experience with it. i told her to have the city install another meter for the yard and be done with it. maybe about the same price as having a well put in and paying for the power to run the pump.

 

Not finding a lot of info on your model. I found several Wayne pdf manuals that may be helpful.
The Wayne pump tech service phone number is also listed in the manuals.

There are (were) three assemblies in that line. They are all discontinued. I tried to find info on any of the three. One listed a rebuilding kit but no info or further pics.

Wayne pdf 2
Wayne pump manual

 

thanks the wayne links show only pump repair parts, i need the injector parts or repair of even the assembly information. i have an idea. but maybe someone can tell me if that injector sends a single pipe down into the casing or a pipe in a pipe? with the actual jet at the bottom. or is the jet setting at the top? it seems to me the jet should be at the bottom. if this has a pipe in a pipe then it may be a hard unit to take apart as if it is 50 or so feet down i have no way to pull it myself and take it apart as i pull it up.
thanks

 

ok i did sone research and asked the question a bit differently and this is what i found. i found a flowtec and a pentair system and. that both look the same so my guess another company makes them and these companies sell them. and i saw a YT that showd a goulds system but i could not see the volute to confirm it was the same. but the top looked the same!
looking at the photo the part at the top left looks like what i see on the top of the point. so if you look at the part i'm pointing to you see the brass part sticking out of the end of what looks like the drop volute but is the green or brown section just above the brass fitting some type of sealing to the casing? if this is what she has for her system then how can that be pulled up and out of the point without damage? also if she has a 60' drop i figured it out to be like 200# with just the pipe and without water in it. i would think this would have a check at the bottom and if it is working then the weight will go up with the water in it. and i do not think i will be able to pull that out by myself. i could rig a tripod but because this house is a few miles away i'm not going to get that involved. i would if it was mine.

so does this type of volute actually wear out over the years? i have pumps that have the deep well nose on them and never had to take the nose off because of a worn-out volute. if it does not wear out as a rule then i heard about dropping some nuwell tabs down the well to help clean the point. if those do work would i drop them in the small return pipe that sends the water down and if so would they actually manage to get down below the volute unit and into the point area? if not then pulling the complete volute system out is going to be the best and she may need to find a well company that can do that for her.

so the first thing i will do for her is try to get it to prime and see if that works and it holds a prime and will pump water.

thanks.